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War or Peace

There was a pro-war atmosphere - this is how R.Fico described the meeting of European leaders on Ukraine.

According to Prime Minister Fico, not a single word about peace was said during the meeting, which he stressed he deeply regrets. Before leaving Paris, he said that the meeting, organized by French President Emmanuel Macron, was confidential and therefore he would not comment on the words of individual participants.
- I can confirm that there are countries that are ready to send their own troops to Ukraine, and there are countries that say "never." Slovakia is one of them," Fico said in the published recording.
(....) Robert Fico's words last week, when he said Putin is being "falsely demonized," and that the European Union's only plan is to support the mutual killing of Slavs, and that the West's strategy for using the conflict to destroy the Russian Federation is not working.

( seems that also Greece , Tschech R., and maybe to some extend Germany are not willing to escalate war .)

After reading the above, all day in my head sounds great polish poem/song: (maybe any native speaker will take challenge to translate it into en-US , de, ru , ua , es , I wish I could read these translations (better than machine ones. Below www.deepl.com/translator#pl/en/ I modified it in 6 places)

WOJNA

Ojczyzna bez żołnierza, to jak bez miecza kat

Więc biorą kwiat młodzieży od wielu, wielu lat

A gdy spod ciężkich tanków robocza tryska krew

W salonach giełd i banków wesoły słychać śpiew:

Niech żyje wojna!

Muzyczka marsza rżnie

Wojna!

Pieniążki sypią się

Wroga bij w imię Boga

Za cudzą kieszeń oddaj młode życie swe!

Dyrektor w gabinecie kolację smaczną pcha

Wesoły jest bo przecie waleczną armię ma

A gdy robociarz marnie w okopach będzie gnił

On grubą forsę zgarnie i brzuch mu będzie tył.

Niech żyje wojna...

Na Placu Piłsudskiego trebacze w trąby dmą

To wódz Państwa Polskiego przegląda armię swą

A gdy ktoś kwiatki głupie na grobie złoży twym

To ty nieznany trupie zaśpiewaj razem z nim:

Niech żyje wojna...

Po śmierci ci wykopią wygodny wspólny grób

Wesoło jest tam chłopie, co krok to inny trup

A gdy cię uczuć fala w miłosny popchnie szał

To z siostrą ze szpitala zabitą będziesz spał

Niech żyje wojna, muzyczka marsza rżnie
Wojna, pieniążki sypią się
Wroga bij w imię Boga
Za cudzą kieszeń oddaj młode życie swe ....
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WAR

Homeland without a soldier, is like a swordless executioner

So they take the flower of youth for many, many years

And when from under the heavy work tanks gushes blood

In the salons of stock exchanges and banks a merry chant is heard:

Long live war!

March music joyfully jumps !

War!

Money is pouring in !

Beat the enemy in the name of God

For someone else's pocket give your young life!
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The director pushes a tasty dinner in his office

He is cheerful because he has a brave army

And when the laborer will rot miserably in the trenches

He'll get his fat money and his belly will swell.

Long live the war...

On Pilsudski Square the trumpeters are blowing

It's the leader of the Polish State reviewing his army

And when someone puts foolish flowers on your grave

Then you unknown corpse sing along with him:

Long live war...

After death they will dig you a comfortable common grave

It's merry there bro, every step is another corpse

And when your feelings wave into a love frenzy

Then with dead hospital sister you will sleep .

Long live the war!
March music joyfully jumps !
War !
Money is pouring in !
Beat the enemy in the name of God
For someone else's pocket give your young life ...
At this point, it's not really worth discussing when a Russian supporter makes a statement supporting Russia or a Ukraine supporter supports Ukraine.
1) I am definitely not supporter of R or U , nothing in this post (or my others indicates so)
2 ) why - 'At this point, it's not really worth discussing' - BUT it was 'really worth discussing' when this forum was flooded by mostly one sided narration ?
So, when will be again , after first nukes on .... ?

3) poem/song is from 1938 ,author was very close to claimed mindset of Lichesss creator/owner-at least till 3y ago....
but its 'statement' is still
uneasy to .....
4) this is translation fun challenge for willing to exercise brain- not starting point for
'how X is marvelous and Y is terrible' hate hour .
Hey, my post was non-partisan.

The English translation reminds me of Iron Maiden's 2 Minutes to Midnight.
Even if Russia thinks that their cause is just, a nuclear war will not advance their cause

A wise leader knows when to retreat, a maniac does not. Ukraine has no where to retreat to, Russia does.
I read the title as War and Peace and immediately thought of the book by Tolstoy.
at 8
Not an accident ,instead and- or is deliberate.... Leo Tolstoy knew first hand about War , he fought in Crimean War (against 'Collective West Coalition' sic!)
His pacifist alarms were dispised by dignified Man of Reason who knew (before 1914) that World (and especially Europe ) is too much globalized ,interconnected by international trade , finances, to have any major wars...
so, would not do any 'self-immolation' ; )
The same repeated in years when Warsow Pact countries were convinced by West - about 'end of history' = there will be no war ,because globalization and so on again...cooperation is much more profitable to all sides ....NATO will not move an inch toward east...
'Capital has no nationality ' was imposed as a dogma here (by bribed guys to put asleep TV-sheeple that their States are taken over...)....

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