Three questions about fairness in online chess

Cool, I didn't know we could turn takeback off!

(1) Silence and grudge (i have mars in cancer).

(2) Most of the time is evident if a player leaves the game because of a losing situation or connection problems, so... No problems to adjudicate the game in the first situation; for the second case, if i it happened to me only one time i think and i waited.

(3) Read Tatarkower: takeback should not be allowed in chess, as one should learn to think carefully before making the move. So as a preference i think it is good to turn off takebacks. Takebacks (but then they're no real takebacks) are useful only when you analyse a game, alone or with another player.

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@MakeDeal #9

"gay" literally means joyful

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gay

"From Middle English gay, from Old French gai (“joyful, laughing, merry”)"

You seem to use the word gay in a negative sense.

I am unhappy about that.

I have several gay friends, and I live in a gay friendly country, and that is a joyful thing actually.

Let's make peace and be tolerant, and use better swearing and cursing words :)

Thanks in advance.

achja, you have misunderstood me. I'm not against gayness. I know many gay people that are nice too. I just think that expression is funny for some reason. Not meant to offend anyone.

You will never be as rude as the person I just played, at least. He leaves the game, presumably because he lost connection, so I wait for him to come back even though it asks me if I want to claim victory or not. He comes back, and in a few moves I blunder and lose my queen. Then he has the indecency to actually say I suck. I tell him that if he's going to be like that then I'm not going to continue playing, and he laughs at me. I've blocked him, but my god was he a jerk.

THAT is a jerk. What you do isn't jerkish at all.

1) Someone complains to you about moving too slowly... Okay, I can get how that would be annoying for you. However I think it really depends on how it is said. For instance I was playing a game the other day in which we both had 15+10. I had about 8 minutes left, and they had about 3, having spent 5 minutes on the current move already I told them something along the lines of "Watch your clock. I wouldn't want to win on time." I was trying to be helpful. Wasn't trying to be rude, but helpful.

2) I don't come across this as much when playing more serious players 1800+ That is more of a problem with lower rated players. It still happens once in a blue moon though.

3) http://en.lichess.org/0NZ43LLMJM9X

This game here is a good example of myself allowing a takeback. I believe my opponent requested one on move 41 or 42. I allowed the take back, then explained my winning plan to go round up the h pawn while black passively guards my c pawn from promotion. Allowing the takeback, and then explaining my winning plan made them resign on the spot... So ya I don't normally allow takebacks but sometimes I do if I'm sure I'm winning either way.

(1) Time limits are for both players to play by. I would invite the opponent to resign if they don't wish to play any more. If they insult you, report them.

(2) Leaving the game is relatively common, as is whinging about how the player lost because of the internet connection, especially in bullet. Claim it as soon as you can - it's dog eat dog out there. When players complain about their connection causing them to lose, I always suggest they invest in better internet or play longer games. If they're blatantly just rubbish, I write 'lol'.

(3) Turn off takebacks. Neither a borrower nor a lender be. Takebacks have no place in chess. Mouse slips by either side will even out.

I personally consider it a sign of respect to refuse takebacks. If you do accept them it's like saying "I don't need you to make a big blunder because I can beat you anyway". Kind of arrogant imo.

Although I admit it's quite satisfying if you beat them after accepting a takeback, similar to beating someone after they refused your draw offer.

(1) Agreed - the time limit has been agreed.
(2) Agreed - five minutes is a generous waiting time.
(3) I set my games with no take-back. I play like I do over the board; in fact, I often move having touched a piece (even though online players can't detect the touch). So agreed, I say I don't take take-backs and don't offer them.

1) you should not take time to think, it's not fair. all the more you do it on purpose by setting up long time control. that's quite rude.

2) you should disconnect as well ! it's not fair gaining rating points without winning for real. very rude from you once again.

3) if opponents give a piece, you should always give it back, even if you're not 100% sure it's a mouse slip. that's basic polite behavior.

I won't make a conclusion, it would be rude.